Wednesday, April 3, 2013

#15 (23) Discussion with HONEST MAN --Wesley Q

#15
Discussion with Wesley Q--Honest Man!?
You are right! in-A-WAY!   BUT!
Faith can be in many different things!
 My faith = some of MY BELIEFS  ARE:
That  the Bible has CAUSED
2.3 billion people to.....  SAY!
 They are Christians, & MANY THAT
will Kill or Die!  for their Religion --very impressive!
 AMAZING!  &
 The Bible ISTwo Edged Sword  that
"CAME OUT OF HIS MOUTH!"  THAT!
 Will  eventually KILL Billions! --
--the very people who
 have been Deluded!  by
 their   LIES  to themselves!  which they
 concluded from  reading the Bible
--which Isaiah says,  God has SAID
he WILL DO!   ("I will CHOOSE
Their DELUSIONS & Bring
 their Fears upon them!  BECAUSE!
 When I spoke, they didn't listen!"  (IS. 66:4)
" Which I have Faith--Believe ....
 that he HAS DONE!
 with the VAST MAJORITY of Christians!
 Who are Hypocrites who .....
 while CLAIMING  to be Christians......
They Have  NEVER DONE!  many of the things that
 Jesus SAID!  that
 One would....  HAVE ... TO do
 to be HIS  DISCIPLE--Student--Follower! &
 Could NOT BE   his Disciple-Student UNLESS 
they HAD DONE! these things!
YOU!   DO NOT.....
  Believe exactly, LITERALLY
 in  every WORD--SENTENCE
 of the Bible!  DO YOU? 
I think Certainly NOT!
You could NEVER Eat Jesus' Flesh
or Drink his Blood!  SO!
YOU Think  there is
 a lot of ALLEGORY
 IN the Bible.
 So what YOU  HAVE = YOUR
 .... FAITH  IN .... IS.... YOUR OPINION!
 of  WHAT  the Bible says & teaches.
    I believe = have ....The SAME FAITH!..... IN
 MY OPINION & AM CONVINCED THAT
MY OPINION  is more Accurate &
 Exact & Ultimately more Beneficial
to ME & anybody who agrees with me &
that the Vast Majority of Claiming-Christians are
 Lying Hypocrites  Headed for
 Pain!  Pain!  & MORE PAIN!
& in the Very Near Future
 Excruciating PAIN! 
 Nuke-Holocaust-Lake-of-Fire! ... IF! 
they don't come to
 a RADICAL CHANGE  of OPINION!
 & Become MEEK & Start DOING!
 What  God & Jesus  BOTH!....
SAID.... TO  DO! =
 KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS&
 RUN!  as  far away from DANGER!
 As Possible!
    You know:....
6 Million CHRISTIANS
 ALSO DIED!  in
 Hitler's Holocaust!!
& WHAT?! 
 --WHAT  Did God say:
 to ALL of THEM?!
 as they prayed & cried out in
Excruciating Pain! ANGUISH! PAIN! &
TEARS!  ....BEGGING!   God to
SAVE them?  "PLEASE! GOD!!! 
PULEEEEASE!  HELP ME!!!"
 Jeremiah Tells!
 "You didn't listen to ME when
 I told you what to
DO!  to LIVE = Stay Alive! = (My Law! 
--Which YOU! REJECTED!)
 So NOW  When YOU
CRY IN PAIN  to ME! 
 I DON'T LISTEN TO YOU!"  Ha!
Why do I LAUGH?!  BECAUSE I think
 it's a JOKE to God!  He  "REJOICES!
OVER THEM TO BRING THEM TO
NOTHING!"  Ha, Ha, Ha!
You were SO CERTAIN! 
You were SO CONFIDENT! &
SOOO  ARROGANT!
 You thought you were SOOO SMART!
You PREACHED your  ASSUMPTIONS! 
to Others &
tried to CONVERT PEOPLE that you
 considered Beneath you &
 too stupid to think for themselves &
needed YOU to do their thinking
FOR THEM!  Ha!  &
 Tell em what to DO!  Ha!
Break the Sabbath!  Eat Pork!  Forget the
Holy Days!  You're NOT UNDER the LAW!
YEAH!  YOU'RE UNDER GOD'S CURSE!
According to YOUR ASSUMPTIONS!  Ha!
"Faith-belief-ASSUMPTIONS = 
EVIDENCE???
of things NOT SEEN!?" 
Ha! & Ha, Ha, Ha!
NOT HARDLY!
What a SILLY JOKE!
How can an ASSUMPTION be EVIDENCE?!
Ha! --"THROWN OUT of COURT!"
 "& NOW  YOU don't Feel So Proud!"
 '"Had to live all out on the Street"  (Dylan song)
 NOW  YOU  have to DIE in Excruciating PAIN!
  WHY?
 WRONG BELIEF!  Ha!
 WRONG ASSUMPTIONS!
Your ASSUMPTIONS DECEIVED YOU!  YOU
DECEIVED YOURSELF with your ASSUMPTIONS! &
Your ARROGANCE!  =  (Jewsh Prvrb)  =>
 "To ASSUME IS to be DECEIVED!"
& I think & SAY to YOU
 & all my Relatives & Friends
THAT ....YOU! ....ARE 
in  the SAME BOAT
 WITH THEM! =
You  have REJECTED God's LAW!  & SAY:
 "We are
NOT Under the Law!"  --"Obsolete"!  "Ready to
Vanish Away"!  "Be Abolished"!
 "Wasn't PERFECT"!  Ha!
WHY?!
ON WHOSE AUTHORITY?
ON WHOSE WORD?
CERTAINLY NOT GOD!
CERTAINLY NOT Jesus!
 Then WHO?!
Two PROVEN LIARS!
 Peter & Paul!
ONE  denied Christ 3 times & LIED TO Jesus
More than once! & the
Last thing Jesus said to him was:  "WHEN
YOU are CONVERTED, ..... FEED my sheep &
 FOLLOW ME!"  !!  He NEVER HAD  FOLLOWED
 JESUS except ONLY PHYSICALLY!!  Ha!
 --Like the POPE!  Ha!
  The  OTHER ONE  SAID
 he was a Jew  BUT!
 He was  NOT!  a Jew
 by any definition
of the Word!  = "Of the Tribe of Benjamin",
 NOT Judah & DID NOT FOLLOW JUDAISM =
 BUT!  REJECTED THE
 Eternal Covenant!
= The Commandments
of God = The LAW!   & SAID
 "he was an Apostle" but
by Definition was NOT!  =
ONE WHO saw Jesus in Person &
was  CHOSEN  by Jesus as an Apostle!
  (Rev. 2:2 & 2:9)-->
= "Liars!  SAY!  they Apostles but NOT!
 Liars!   SAY!  they Jews, but NOT!" --Gives
you a CLUE! Doesn't it?!  Ha!)
  --"The Eternal Covenant"!  = >
"OATH that God SWORE"!  
Would God?
 SWEAR an OATH!  &
Then  go BACK on IT?!
 I don't think SO!  NOT WHEN HE SAYS!
"God who KEEPS COVENANT
TO 1000 GENERATIONS"! =  70,000 YEARS!
 "PERPETUAL"!  "FOREVER"!  "EVERLASTING"!
-- "NOT one jot or tittle PASS,
till Heaven & Earth PASS!  Till ALL BE FULFILLED"!
     SO!     I have Faith!  Ha!
--Belief that:  God IS & SEES
 Everything & Chastens US! & TESTS US!
Punishes US with Pain! & finally KILLS US!
IF WE DO NOT PASS HIS TEST!
Rejoicing over us to bring US to NOTHING!  BECAUSE!
We didn't Correct Ourselves to:  "Be Perfect with
YHWH your God!"
"LOVE ME OR, I'LL KILL YOU!"
"He oft Chastened, Hardens Neck,
Suddenly  Destroyed!  & THAT
 without Remedy!" (Prvbs) No Remedy?  WHY?
 BECAUSE!
HE DEAD MEAT!
 TOO LATE!  FOR REMEDY!  Ha!
      So!  You & I  HAVE the Same Faith!  Ha!
SURPRISED?  DON'T BELIEVE IT?  Ha!
 --on SOME things, but DIFFERENT
BELIEFS on many other things!
 We both believe in the Bible in
our own way.  But,
 YOU believe  that God
 LOVES Everybody!  BUT, I DON'T
THINK SO! I believe (from Deut.  He says:
 "I  will LOVE YOU IF!!....& ONLY IF!
You keep my Commandments!) & that
 he Loves ONLY
 those who KEEP his Commandments!
 & THAT IS What he Says!  &
 he didn't LOVE
 those Jews & Christians & Poles &
Russians & Gipsies who were tortured in PAIN!
 & KILLED!  But
 "REJOICED OVER THEM 
to Bring Them to NOTHING!"
= LAUGH at their PAIN! & DYING! & DEATH!
Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha!!! &  Ha! 
Over THOSE WHO REJECT my LAW! &
REFUSE to KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS!
What does that REALLY MEAN?
EVERYTHING!  That IS DONE in the Universe,
IS DONE BY THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE!
BY the LAW of CAUSE & EFFECT!
"There's Nothing that's Done that God Doesn't DO!
Even the Sins!  That are DONE by YOU! &
The Punishment you FEEL TOO!  & Killing Pain!
With Pills, Will Instead KILL YOU!"  Ha!
So My Guess is that "Rejoicing Over YOU to
Bring YOU to NOTHING!"  MEANS!  YOU in so
Much Pain that  you're HAPPY!  to See DEATH Coming!
The Creator thru You Rejoicing to See Death Coming!
Like Jesus & the Thief!  "Today YOU will be WITH ME
IN PARADISE!  BRAIN DEAD! --NO PAIN!  --NOT
Heaven!  But OBLIVION in the Grave!  Ha!
The Hemingway CURE!  for a HEAD-ACHE!  Ha!
You who have Eyes but DO NOT SEE!
& EARS TO HEAR!  BUT
CAN NOT HEAR &
A MIND to Perceive BUT!
CAN NOT PERCEIVE  TRUTH!
 & God  WILL  Trick YOU!  &  ME! 
& Delude YOU!
IF!  you CAN be Tricked & Deluded &
 WILL  ....  KILL YOU! ....  IF
 .... you're stupid & don't see the Wisdom
of Being Perfect with YHWH your God!
"Don't FEAR!  Go KILL PEOPLE to
TAKE the Promised Land I "GAVE" YOU!
I will Fight for you to SAVE you!"  But IF you're
SCARED don't go, because, YOU MIGHT DIE!"
Ha!  & Many came back in BODY BAGS!  Ha!
 (Jer. "They  REJECT!  the WORD
of YHWH their God!
 what Wisdom is in them???!)  Ha!
  NONE!
THEY   THOT   THEY!  Were Smarter than
 God--YHWH--The God of
the Bible!  Ha!  They thot THEY  KNEW  what
was best for THEM! .....  BETTER! .....
than the God of  The Bible!  Ha!
& THIS  IS HOW!  GOD IS GIVING THEM--US
 a MIND to Perceive!  &
 "Writing my LAW      in   your HEARTS" =
YOUR THINKING!"  --BY KILLING!  THE
FOOLISH & LETTING THE WISE REPRODUCE!
Were Peter & Paul FALSE PROPHETS?
YOU JUDGE!  =>
Deuteronomy 13 If  arise a prophet,  dreamer of dreams,and
gives a sign or wonder, And the sign
or wonder come to pass, saying, go after
 other gods, which you have not known,
You shall not
listen  to that prophet,
 for YHWH
your God proves you, to know whether
You love YHWH your God!  You shall  walk
after  YHWH your God, and fear him, and
keep his commandments, and obey
 his voice, and you shall serve him, and
cleave unto him.
  And that prophet, shall be
Put to DEATH!  BECAUSE!  he has
spoken to turn  away from
YHWH your God, which brought you
 out of the land of Egypt, And ALL Israel
 shall hear, and fear, and shall do
no more any such wickedness as
 this is among you." 
HITLER was SENT by God as
a ROD of PUNISHMENT!!
Like the King of Assyria!
 Isaiah 10:5  "I sent him as a Rod of Punishment to
 Kill & Destroy, HOWEVER...
He does not know it!"
Were all those people killed
 in HITLER'S Holocaust KILLED because....
 they were SOOO, SOOO  WICKED?  Ha! 
 I Would GUESS NOT!  But who am I to say?
God has his CRITERIA!  & IT MAY SEEM
A BIT EXTREME to me, but I don't think
it's wise to argue with God!  Because when
it comes time to go into the Promised Land
= Saved FROM!  NUKE-HOLOCAUST-LAKE -of-FIRE!
to go to Heaven, God
will say to YOU!  (Like he Said to Moses!)
  "YOU can't go & have to
DIE HERE NOW!!  OI!  BECAUSE!,
YOU!  DIDN'T SANCTIFY ME!  
I'm SURE!  That  NONE of Them thot  THAT
They were Wicked OR NEEDED to REPENT!!
 They kept the Sabbath & (in their Opinions!)
 Kept the Commandments!
OR!  they believed that
 they Believed on Jesus & were "Born Again" 
& were "SAVED"!
--A little Prematurely!  Ha!
--Counted their Chickens before they were
Hatched!  Ha!  A FATAL MISTAKE!
So WHY?! .... were they KILLED?
 BECAUSE!,
 THEY WERE TOO STUPID!
-- TOO STUPID to RUN
AWAY FROM DANGER!
--COULDN'T SEE it coming,
-- COULDN'T Think ahead!  --Didn't see the BEAR
ROBBED of her Cubs!  coming round the corner!  Ha!
"TRUSTING SOULS" with
WRONG BELIEF!
 WRONG BELIEF KILLS!
 RIGHT BELIEF SAVES YOUR LIFE!
 FEAR GOD!
 YOU BETTER!!!
"The WISE-MAN sees the Danger & HIDES!
The FOOL keeps right on going to HIS DEATH!"  Ha!
   My father said,  "NOT .... FEAR GODBUT!
 RESPECT HIM!"  = DEADLY MISTAKE!  & he's DEAD!
 BECAUSE!  of   IT! = WRONG BELIEF!
"God is LOVE!?  ( 1st Jn.4:8) OR!
"YHWH-God is a MAN of WAR!" (Ex. 15:3)
 (WHICH IS IT?!!!)
WRONG OPINION!  Didn't believe he was Wrong!
Got Mad when I told him he was Wrong!  Ha!
Could NOT IMAGINE  that HE Could POSSIBLY
BE WRONG!  &
NEED  to REPENT!  Ha!  = CORRECT HIMSELF!
Hard-Headed Dutchman!
DIED from  Not Enough FEAR!  & FROM
of a LACK of KNOWLEDGE!  (Hosea 4:6)
 BECAUSE!  HE COULDN'T LEARN!
He couldn't LEARN  from EXPERIENCE!
 He couldn't learn  from his PAINS! --Failure!
 He  COULDN'T LEARN  from
 the Chastening = Punishment of God.
 He COULDN'T CORRECT HIMSELF!
 He COULDN'T LEARN What it MEANS
 to REPENT! = LEARN!
& GET KNOWLEDGE! -- The KNOWLEDGE
 of  HOW to Avoid Death! --the LACK of
WHICH   IS ..... WHY! ....  PEOPLE DIE!  Hosea says:
  "People DIE from Lack of Knowledge!"  &
Jesus says:
THE EXACT SAME THING! =
 "EXCEPT you get KNOWLEDGE  (From
LEARNING!  from your experience-failure-
PAIN!-Chastening-
(ALL PAIN IS CHASTENING FROM GOD!   to
 warn you of  Damage  to your Body that
 IS  KILLING YOU  & WILL
ULTIMATELY KILL YOU DEAD!  
--DOOR-NAIL-DEAD! SUDDENLY!)
 EXCEPT you LEARN HOW TO!   &
DO THE LEARNING!  TO!  GET KNOWLEDGE by
 YOU!   CORRECTING YOURSELF! =
LEARN from your Experience to
 get THAT KNOWLEDGE NEEDED
to AVOID DEATH = REPENT! = GET KNOWLEDGE!
 (Knowledge Which  God says  he "GAVE US......
 in his LAW!"  But WHICH
they couldn't ... SEE... it!"
 ("You Got Eyes, but can't See!")  &
COULDN'T  Recognize it!  BECAUSE!  (He says!)
 "He had not yet given
 them a MIND  to Perceive!"   Ha!  BUT!
He BLAMES  their Failure  ON THEM!  &
PUNISHES THEM! & 
KILLS THEM!  Ha!
  But....he IS Giving  US  A MIND to PERCEIVE!
 he IS .... DOING IT NOW! ..... --AS WE SPEAK!  Ha!
 HOW? 
 By
 KILLING off  the Stupid Ones who are NOT.....
 MEEKcan't LEARN!  & Don't know
what REPENT MEANSor
 HOW TO DO IT!)  &
can't take care of themselves!
 in  a DANGEROUS WORLD!  Ha!  &
 don't have Sense Enough to See Danger
 & Run Away!  Ha!   Like the Smart Ones DID!
--The smart ones Like Einstein!  &
My Great Grandparents & GranPa who
 ran from Hitler!  &
 the Oppenheimers & the Weinsteins, & the Lipschitses &
 Cohens, &  Blums & Rubins & Sommers, Etc,  Ha! &
Probably the Queens & Readers!  Ha!
The MEEK who Have figured out how to
 get rid of the Beam in
their  Own Eye, before trying to
 pluck out the Speck from
their Neighbor's Eye!  Ha!
IN MY OPINION!.......Ha!
It's ALL OPINION!
THAT'S ALL THERE IS!!
 It's ALL ASSUMPTION!
See how it's SPELLED?  = "Assume makes
an ASS out of YOU & ME!"  Ha!  But "Without
FAITH=ASSUMPTIONS=BELIEF it is impossible
to Please God!" Paul was a Liar &
A False Prophet!BUT!
NOT EVERYTHING HE SAID was Wrong!
  DITTO for Ezekiel!
 "Without FAITH you  CAN'T do NOTHING!"
--"Sure as hell can't MOVE ANY MOUNTAINS!"  Ha!
"So,....This is College?!  I didn't miss Nothing!"  Ha!
(--Except how to Speak good English!)  Ha!
(Marlon Brando in Mafia Movie)
Even the BABY  has to BELIEVE!
--Have FAITH THAT
 all his screaming & yelling will
get some RESULTS! &  some FOOD in
his belly!  Ha!
 "Everybody Believes Something!"
That's a FACT!
"You can't LIVE Without FAITH!"  Ha!   BUT!
Everybody who ever DIED!  in the History of
the World,  DIED  ....BECAUSE OF!  Lack of Knowledge!
BECAUSE OF!  WRONG BELIEF!
BECAUSE OF!  INABILITY to REPENT!
BECAUSE OF!  DIDN'T UNDERSTAND what it MEANT!!!
ASSUMPTIONS THAT DECEIVED them  INTO  Thinking
they were RIGHT! = ARROGANCE!  WHICH made it
IMPOSSIBLE for them to REALIZE THAT they  WERE
WRONG--BELIEVED WRONG--ASSUMED WRONG!
 WHICH  had they  SUSPECTED! THAT they had
Concluded Wrong & Questioned their Beliefs!  &
STUDIED THEM!
They could have! CORRECTED THEMSELVES =
REPENTED TO have  GOTTEN  the KNOWLEDGE!
that would have Prevented their DEATH!
That's MY OPINION! ASSUMPTION! BELIEF!  Ha!
I may not know what to DO!  BUT!  I know  a few things
  TO  NOT .....  DO!  The World is Full of IDIOTS with
DEFINITENESS of MIND = FAITH-ASSUMPTIONS-
BELIEFS  DOING IDIOTIC THINGS!  --KILLING &
GETTING THEMSELVES KILLED in WAR!  &  WORSE!
FOR FUN! & PROFIT! Ha!  ("Like the HORSE!
   Running into Battle! 
--Not KNOWING it will DIE!  (Jeremiah 8:6)
"I  LISTENED  and heard, but
they spoke  NOT  ARIGHT!
 NO MAN REPENTED him of
his wickedness, saying!,
 What have I done?
Every one turned to his course,
as the Horse  Rushes into the Battle."
--NOT KNOWING it WILL DIE!

IS EZEKIEL a False Prophet?
You be the Judge!
Deuteronomy 18:20-22
But the prophet, which shall presume
to speak a word in my name, which
I have not commanded him
to speak, or that shall speak
in the name of other gods,
even that prophet  SHALL DIE!  And
IF, You say in your heart--thinking,
How shall we know the word
which YHWH  has  NOT  spoken?  
 When a prophet speaks in
the name of YHWH, if the thing
follow not, nor come to pass,
THAT IS the thing which YHWH has
NOT SPOKEN, but the prophet
has spoken it Presumptuously:
You shall NOT be afraid of him.
Ezekiel  IS!  A FALSE PROPHET!
=   Ezekiel 12:22-28 …Son of man,
what is that proverb that you have
in Israel, saying,
The days prolonged, and
every vision fails?   Tell them
therefore, Thus SAYS YHWH God;
I will make this proverb to cease,
and they shall no more use it as
 a proverb in Israel; but SAY
unto them, The Days are at hand,
and the Effect of every vision.
 For there shall be  no more!  any
vain vision nor flattering divination
within the house of Israel. ???  For I am
YHWH: I will speak, and the word
 that I shall speak shall come to pass;
 it shall be no more prolonged:
for in your days, O rebellious house,
will I say the word, and will perform it,
says YHWH God.   Again the word
of YHWH came to me, saying.
 Son of man, behold, they of
the house of Israel say,
The vision that he sees is for
 many days to come, and he
prophesies of the times
that are far off.
  Therefore say unto them,
Thus says YHWH God;
There shall
None!  of my words be prolonged
any more!, but the word which
I have spoken shall be done,
 says YHWH God."
The World END in FIRE!?
Behold I make ALL THINGS NEW!
The Messiah Come?
The Abomination of Desolation?
The Anti-Christ & False Prophet?  666?
YOU BE The JUDGE! 
YOU LIVE or DIE ON
YOUR OPINION!!! Ha!
Is it CORRECT?  Ha!
Your Friend, Bill

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